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The Battle Off Samar -

Taffy III at Leyte Gulf
5th Edition (2010)
by Robert Jon Cox


'Echoes From Off Samar' by Evan Hollis Crawforth

Please read the FAQs below...
the answer to your question may be here....


Question Who is bosamar.com Webmaster - Robert Jon Cox?
Answer As many of my guests know, I (Robert Jon Cox) am a Senior Chief Yeoman (Submarines) (U.S. Navy Retired).  I retired from the Navy on 1 May 2004.

My last boat....
USS HELENA (SSN 725)
Underway in Alaskan inland waters, near Ketchikan

By the way, if you click on the photo of the submarine above it
will take you to a high-resolution photo.  Do a right-mouse-click and
select "Set as Background."  This is a great desktop photo.
And yes, I took this photo myself! 

"Any man who may be asked in this century
what he did to make his life worthwhile,
I think can respond with a good deal of pride
and satisfaction...

"I served in the United States Navy."

-John F. Kennedy

My Navy bio is here.

My resume is here.

Send all email for me to:

mail@bosamar.com

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Question Are you a survivor of the Battle Off Samar or Leyte Gulf?
Answer No I am not.  My great-uncle Virgil Cox, S1c, USNR, was aboard the USS GAMBIER BAY (CVE 73) when she was sunk.  He survived.

See "A note from the Author" for more insight.

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Question Is this an official site of Task Unit 77.4.3 or one of the ships of Taffy 3?
Answer No it is not. This site is solely the brainstorm and property of myself, Robert Jon Cox.  I am not a member of any Taffy 3 warship, composite squadron, or survivors association.

I have been designated as the official TAFFY III - 77.4.3 - WW II, Inc. webmaster....however....this is not an official site of the aforementioned organization....I am working on my own here and do have and maintain complete control over site content. 

I am supported by several of the official Taffy 3 survivor associations by one way or another which include:

    President, TAFFY III - 77.4.3 - WW II, Inc.
    USS ST LO (CVE 63) & VC-65 Association
    USS KALININ BAY (CVE 68) & VC-3 Association
    USS KITKUN BAY (CVE 71) & VC-5 Association
    USS GAMBIER BAY (CVE 73) & VC-10 Association
    USS JOHNSTON-HOEL Association
    USS JOHN C. BUTLER (DE 339) Association
    USS SAMUEL B. ROBERTS (DE 413) Association
    and individual crew members of every ship and composite squadron of Taffy 3.

The support from the above organizations, associations, and individuals is mainly in the form of donated material.....allowing me to tell you their story directly from the source.....as posted and credited appropriately throughout my web site.

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Question Who pays for all of this....do you accept donations?
Answer I pay for website support out of my pocket and through donations.  All monies received are considered donations.

Upon request, anyone who donates $50 U.S. or more will receive a copy of my book (softcover), "The Battle Off Samar - Taffy III at Leyte Gulf".  Please include contact information in your request.

Anyone with a PC knows that they consume vast quantities of money over time.  I am forever purchasing new software programs to stay with the times.  $100 here and there adds up very quickly.  I estimate that since May 1996 when I started this web site I have easily spent over $10,000 on PC's, upgrades, software, printers, scanners, and the like.

If you are interested in donating to my cause, please send me an email and I will send you my mailing address.  I assure you that all monies received will go ONLY for web site related matters.

And of course, you will make my wife very happy....

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Question How can I help?
Answer Tell a friend about this web site. 

Donate material such as photographs, documents, newspaper articles, etc.

Donate money, PC software, or hardware.

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Question Why did you part ways with the Escort Carrier Sailors & Airmen Association?  Weren't you the ECSAA Webmaster?
Answer I am asked this question very often from ECSAA members.  The story behind the answer would make a fine Monday Night movie. 

ECSAA Founder Tony Potochniak contacted me in 1998 with a request that I build an ECSAA website.  Using my own resources and internet provider I built the original ECSAA website from scratch and piggy-backed it onto my BOSAMAR website.  During my tenure as ECSAA Webmaster I spent approximately 250 hours building and maintaining the ECSAA site over a two-year period. 

I carried out my duties as ECSAA Webmaster as a personal favor to Tony Potochniak.  I never signed a contract for my services.  There was never any formal administration or document linking me to ECSAA.  No legal documents were signed attesting to this.  I was never paid one cent*....I would not accept any money.  I did it for the veterans.  Just me, gullible and trusting Bob Cox, doing what I thought was the right thing to do.

In January 1999 I went back to sea aboard the submarine HELENA.  In hind sight, this is where the problems began.  I was absent very often, and unable to make immediate updates to the ECSAA website.

In July 1999 I moved from Connecticut to California because of my active duty Navy commitments.  I then moved the ECSAA site to its own server and gave it the web address of www.escortcarriers.org.  At this time I also received permission from Tony to host my BOSAMAR web site at the ECSAA URL, free of charge.  My understanding was that as long as the ECSAA owed this URL, my BOSAMAR web site would have a permanent home.  No legal documents were signed attesting to this.  Between the period of September 1999 and June 2000 Tony and I worked hard to improve the ECSAA web site, adding a large amount of new material.

It was during this time that I knew there was some friction between Tony and some of the ECSAA Governors.  I was told by Tony that the current ECSAA Governors wanted to fire me. (my words, not theirs).  Tony told me, everything will be fine (my words, not Tony's).  I was never told what the concrete reasons were for the friction between Tony and the ECSAA Governors until much later.  I will not post those reasons here, as I consider them private and between Tony and the current ECSAA Board of Governors.

In June 2000 I departed for a six-month deployment to the Western Pacific.  By the time I had returned on 13 December 2000, I had already been removed as ECSAA Webmaster by the current Board of Governors.  

First and foremost, I did not part ways with ECSAA on my own accord.  I was removed without any notification by the current Board of Governors, because I was not updating the ECSAA web site in a timely manner (my words, not theirs).  However in hindsight, it was because they wanted to dump ECSAA Founder Tony Potochniak.

In my opinion, I was removed as ECSAA Webmaster because I was controlled by then ECSAA Governor Tony Potochniak.  As everyone should know by now, Tony was removed from the board of ECSAA Governors.  And in this lies the true reason for my demise with ECSAA.

I was never formally or publicly thanked for my service to ECSAA by the current Board of Governors (2000)....*I was just very quietly given a check for $500 to move my BOSAMAR web site off "their" server.  Believe me, the inconvenience was all mine.

I will not support the current ECSAA Board of Governors again unless they reinstate ECSAA Founder Tony Potochniak as a member of their Board of Governors.

I deeply believe the ECSAA membership deserves an explanation from the current ECSAA Board of Governors as to why Tony was given the boot.  Let the membership decide.

ECSAA Members:  Write to your Board of Governors and demand an immediate written explanation in the CVE Piper newsletter!

My loyalty has always remained with my dear friend Tony Potochniak.  Tony has done more to assist me in my ventures than anyone else and for this I am very thankful to him.  Tony does not do these things for himself, he does them for you!

Tony's current project is Our Old Navy.  I am the OON webmaster.

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Question When will the History Channel documentary, "Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors" be shown again on TV?
Answer The History ChannelThe documentary, "Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors" based on author Jim Hornfischer's award-winning book was first shown on History Channel on Veterans Day, November 11, 2005.

In April 2005 I was contacted by a representative of Lou Reda Productions, the creator of the documentary, for assistance in the development of this program.  I provided over 90 still black and white shots from BOSAMAR.COM, most of which are included in the film and I also provided comments and suggestions on the Intermediate Cut of the program.  My name and BOSAMAR.COM appear on line two of the credits.

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Question In the 20th Century Fox movie "Men of Honor", Robert DeNiro's character "Billy Sunday" mentions he was aboard the ST LO (CVE 63); is this true?
Answer This is a very popular question.  My contact from the USS ST LO (CVE 63)/VC-65 Survivors Association, President Holly Crawforth, has assured me that:

quote "...there was no Billy Sunday on the ST LO.....  The incident that mentions the ST LO is pure fiction.  DeNiro's character (Billy Sunday) stated that the ST LO hung up on a reef on it's way down and he was trapped in a compartment five decks down in the fire room  (too many decks) and he rescued 6 men by leading them out through flooded compartments.  MacArthur supposedly was on the intercom when he was in the fire room and gave him his (MacArthur's) corn-cob pipe as a reward when he surfaced...." unquote.  

Hollywood at it's best.

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Question My father was a survivor of the Battle Off Samar. Can you help him locate old shipmates?
Answer Each warship and composite Squadron of Task Unit 77.4.3 has an active survivors association. These folks run absolutely tight-knit organizations and they would be thrilled to be informed of a "lost shipmate".

I no longer post association addresses.  As time moves on it gets harder and harder to keep good contacts.  However, several Taffy III associations have excellent websites:

Gambier Bay
St Lo/Midway
Another St Lo/Midway web site
Johnston/Hoel
Samuel B. Roberts

I am very proud to state that my site has been responsible for reuniting several "lost shipmates" with their respective survivors association.

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Question Why doesn't the information on your site display correctly in my browser?
Answer Check your browser version number. For best results, you should use Microsoft Internet Explorer version 7.0.   My website was created using Microsoft FrontPage.  My current version of FP is v2003.

In addition, for optimum browsing, your monitor should be set at 1024 x 768 pixels and at least 16-bit color.

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Question I am having difficulty viewing the information posted on your site because the fonts you used are too small to read. Can you help?
Answer The top two internet browsers, Microsoft Internet Explorer, Netscape Navigator, Firefox, Opera each have a TEXT SIZE KEY.  YOU have control over font size and font face at your PC.....set it for whatever you like.  Your size choices are "Smallest, Smaller, Medium, Larger, and Largest."  For font face....I would choose "ARIAL".....the choice is yours....

HTML has its restrictions....  My web site is no different than any other and therefore has the same restrictions.  I believe on par, my web site is much more user friendly than others.

Finally, I'm not familiar with AOLs browser....  I only use MSIE and from my vantage point, it works just fine.

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Question Where can I obtain photographs of U.S. Navy warships?
Answer You may obtain 8x10 black and white or color photographs (if available) by contacting the:

    Photo Service
    U.S. Naval Institute
    118 Maryland Avenue
    Annapolis, MD  21402-5035
    Fax (410) 269-7940

Price per photo for members $16.
Price per photo for non-members $20.
Plus postage and handling.

The Online Photo Store is here.

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Question Where can I obtain a copy of my official military service records?
Answer Submit your request on Standard Form 180, "Request Pertaining to Military Records", available at most government offices such as the Veterans Administration.

The form is broken down by service...Air Force, Coast Guard, Marine Corps, Army, and Navy. A list of custodians corresponding to your category of service (active, reserve, officer, enlisted, etc.) is provided with a specific mailing address to where your records are kept.

Information from records of military personnel is released subject to restrictions imposed by the military departments consistent with the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act of 1974. A service person has access to almost any information contained in his own record. The Next of Kin may obtain the records if the veteran is deceased. Precedence of Next of Kin is: unmarried widow or widower, eldest son or daughter, father or mother, eldest brother or sister.

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Question Shouldn't your web site be named "The Battle of Samar?"
Answer You would be surprised to find out how many people tell me that I've misspelled "off", as in "The Battle Off Samar."

Naval historians, not English Professors, have named the battle as follows...if you don't believe me....go to your library and do some research for yourself.

The Battle off Samar
The Battle of Samar
Samar

I like the first and have taken the liberty of capitalizing the "O" in "Off" when used on my web site. 

The battle took place off the island of Samar....as in off-shore oil platform....  To say "of Samar" just doesn't sound right to me.

My apologies to all of my English student guests.  You obviously came here for a lesson in Naval history.....not an English lesson.

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Question What is going on with your book?
Answer

My book "The Battle Off Samar - Taffy III at Leyte Gulf is posted online for all to enjoy.  My old internet book, "The Battle Off Samar - The Tragedy of Taffy III is no longer available online.  The new version is much better....

I decided to place this book online for a few different reasons:

  • So the survivors, their families, and enthusiasts would have unlimited access to this history.

  • It's too good to just let it sit on my PC.

  • To raise money via donations to keep BOSAMAR.COM self-supportive and online.

All chapters are now posted.  

I started writing this book in November 1992.  In August 1996 I decided to post the condensed version of what I had ready onto my web site under the tile "The Battle Off Samar - The Tragedy of Taffy III. Since then work continued on my book.....I gathered huge amounts of information concerning the battle via my web site.....and in its finished form, my book consisted of 14 chapters, 194 pages, 48 photographs, size 8½ x 11, soft cover (perfect-bind), on 70-pound acid-free paper....and it sold like hot cakes....

I sold the First Edition of this book to the general public from June to December 1998 via this web site.  My first run of books sold out very quickly.  Just as I was getting ready to have another run of books printed I received Permanent Change of Station orders to another submarine and those plans went out the window.  

I continued to conduct research and completed the Second Edition of my book in February 2001.  These additions consists of about six pages of additional material and corrected a few spelling, technical, and layout errors.  

In February 2001 I was contacted by the late John Ibe, Vice President of Task Unit 77.4.3 (aka Taffy III) Organization who then purchased 500 copies of the Second Edition of my book to support their venture in the Bob Hope Military Tribute. 

In March 2003 I completed the Third Edition of my book.  It was only available on CD-rom in PDF format (Adobe Acrobat) because I could not find a reasonably priced local printer for my book.  With the Adobe Acrobat, a PDF converter was not necessary.

Due to modern technology and the advent of Print on Demand my book is once again available in printed format as of January 2006.  The Fourth Edition is available in soft cover (perfectbind) and hard cover (casewrap).

The Fifth Edition of my book is now on sale in both soft and hard cover.  See my book section for more information.

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Question I don't see my question listed here....can you help?
Answer You bet!  Send me an email now!  Email Robert Jon Cox!  

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Honor the Missing in Action and Killed in Action of Taffy III

We do remember.  We won't forget.


Robert Jon Cox - webmaster@bosamar.com
last revised June 07, 2010
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